#1565 w/Gary Laderman:
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The Problem with Celebrity Pastors
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#1565 w/Gary Laderman:
open.spotify.com/episode/0qMDZGFzU4RsEdjICSUiWg?si=uV4iB2YYSH2rT2wNeseJjw
Even having a “celebrity pastor” speak/preach to celebrities is still fake on a level. To me, you as the “celebrity pastor”, are preaching to the celebrity of a human being more than the person underneath that mask. Celebrities need authentic, real, unknown pastors that aren’t on TV to connect with them. For that pastor to speak to the human being, not the mask of the celebrity. If that makes sense
Jesus joe is 53
If he is single he can have sex.
The Mickey Mouse club kids actually did pretty well with becoming famous young. I.e. Timberlake , Ryan gosling and Britney Spears even though she went through a breakdowns she made it to the other side . Jodie foster, drew Barrymore after she got sober so young . People only focus on the train wrecks and tragedies but reality is a lot of people famous as kids had it pretty good, they grew up making a lot of money by themselves and never wanted for anything. I have a lot more sympathy for the millions of kids living in poverty homeless starving sex trafficked child laborers abused etc . Famous kids have suffered too but honestly their problems are all first world and self inflicted. That isn’t to say that I don’t have sympathy for the child actors/ musicians who were exploited and abused but I would much rather be depressed, abused, addicted to drugs with millions of dollars in the bank and extensive resources than without a penny or a way out .
Joe: dick root 😂😂😂
People need to realize that EVERY human makes mistakes. Doesn’t matter if they’re Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, atheist, etc. People tend to always put religious people on a pedestal thinking they can do no wrong.
Freddie Highmore seems okay as well.
I think Owl City is a celebrity who never lost it.
I think those preachers that have celebrities in the audience see it as a feather in their cap.... I'm sure Joel Osteen loves having Kanye West in his flock. The same way the dick-root preacher likes having Justin Bieber on his arm.
High Joe talking about other times of being high is just amazing and magical 🧙♀️😏🤔🤗
Just remember Judas was an Apostle.
Joe at 53 is what I wanna look like when I'm 45🤣
53?!?!
Can somebody explain what kind of shorts he’s talking about
The void/emptiness in man's heart is the absence of GOD - their sin/vanity of the world- is not the real happiness/peace - WE NEED GOD- OUR FATHER/CREATOR - JESUS died for Our SINS/disobedience- We need study and pray to know and accept CHRIST for Salvation and Everlasting Life- in Heaven other wise if We deny him we choose death/hell
Joel Osteen is not a real pastor of GOD he is deceiving and he himself knowingly or blind is not a man of GOD - wolf in sheep's clothing- they serving the devil - in error - deceiving spirits- doctrines of demons - not biblical not true to GOD's word
Wow. Profound stuff. Something told me I should start listening to you more.
@joerogan . There is only so Much you can do in one life . I too have overclocked my quota for existence , but rehacks sometimes short circuit . Do not be deceived my king . This man has energy leached you and you didn't know it because you called two shots , his impure conscious kicks in at 7.57 when he divulges .
Joe, I'm just wondering what you think of women who wear throng bikinis with just a string going up their crack of their butt and just enough fabric over to cover their nipples and pudenda?
Jesus said this in the gospel of Matthew about false preachers / teachers: Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Who would've thought Joe Rogan could get Jerry Garcia after his carnivore diet journey?
😅😆😅 spot on!! 🍺 haha!
Joe your hypocritical criticism of celebrity preachers is comical. Whether you label yourself as religious or not you still "preach" as though you know truth. You're as self-deceived as Lentz and you can't even see it.
I thought it was george Lucas
Take a look at this m.rofree.info/one/video/ysmWiIBseJpspLA.html
Joe Rogan understands "do not conform to the things of this world" more than Carl Lentz does.
Wow 53! You look great Joe!!
You do realize 53 is the new 46 right
As a Christian pastor, I know Joe is right that you have to be inocculated against the desire and appeal of celebrity. Teaching the Bible without compromise does that really well. Celebrity pastors are not "us", they are "them", they are more celebrity than pastor.
No offense but the Bible explicitly states thou shalt not shop at Whole Foods cuz it’s mad expensive yo
This is one of those times where it feels like Joe is the guest on someone else’s podcast lol he never shuts up
"...pretending to be profound...enlightened...above it all..." pretty much nailed it. Those celebrity pastors want to be worshipped themselves.
If Justin isn't purposefully manipulating the masses then I feel bad for him in all of this. He has a lot of users around him namely his manager Scooter. That sucks.
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I’m confused why “Christians” are apologizing for Carl Lentz’ moral downfall. Christianity isn’t about being perfect. And it’s not about passing judgment, that’s not your job. You’re supposed to embrace fellow sinners, grow from the experience and ask God for forgiveness right? Wow if these comments aren’t eye opening about what goes on behind your closed church doors. The hypocrisy of it all. Sorry folks, only the sins covered in section 82 of your handbook are allowable and forgivable. Any sins committed outside of that scope will be grounds for immediate dismissal from the church. P.s. super thanks for any monies you’ve tithed. We shall use it to remove more sinners. 🙏🏻😉
Fuck. Joe always speaks facts. I love this man. Clear like water.
Get Justin Bieber on the podcast if you’ve already had Hannah Montana lol
American Prosperity Christianity. This is why we reject your religion if charlatans and narcissists have so much sway.
Loathe Carl Lentz. Go to Hell.
One dude said Rob Lowe was 30. Lol
Joe Rogan has no real idea of Christianity...While the preacher has opened himself towards criticism no one is above temptation and moments of falling...Its more than possible to be around celebrity and not get caught up...Unless you know the reasons of his mistake your comments are unfounded...Also Christians on here please read your bible before you point your finger as scripture has people who has fallen to indiscretion but God has restored
@Chris Elcock I do realize that many pastors have shortcomings as they are all human beings but this was something much different.
@Chris Elcock From one of the pages you are subscribed to I can also see very well that you are also a wolf in sheep's clothing. So deceivers will try to normalize deception. If you have good intentions - turn from your wicked ways, repent, and ask God to give you a spirit of discernment. We all fall short of the Kingdom of God but in the end we will all meet God and be held accountable for our sins. "Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that God is Lord." & If you have evil intentions ✌🏾 I'm fleeing you as God commanded me to do in the Bible.
@Yul Nikita He wasn't a false teacher he fell to sin which we're all susceptible to
You have to use discernment and realize the reality of false teachers.
Good thing I lost faith along time ago and point my finger
Joe “that’s a drug!” Rogan
I'm a Christian and I can say I agree with what joe is saying here.
Sk8boarder wear there shorts low ! @joerogan HATES Skateboarders!? JOE you don't know what the Fuk your talkin about )
Hollywood just needs a permanent shutdown. With all the other avenues now for content who needs these greasy scumbags.
This new studio is ugly AF
Interview Francis Chan!!! He was a celebrity pastor and moved to china because of the fame
From experience, celebrities preachers believe the Bible and what they preach, they aren't trying to deceive anyone... But it's just they got human feelings just like anyone else... And once in awhile they fail as they can't control their shadow. No where in the Bible is any person good all the time. And that shows it's realistic. King David sent his best friend on a suicide mission so he can bang his friends wife after he died. So... Realistic ain't hiding anything about humanity.
Lol two whitebois came to our college .. and were pretty decent .. they came to our flat where 4 of my friends live .. smoked up with us , had a drink .. the next day my friends and those 2 white dudes went to the nearby kfc .. that’s when two of them took a piece of tissue paper and starter drawing cross and shit .. they freaked my friends out and they ran 😂😂 Freaky bunch
@JRE, please interview Paul Vanderklay, he had great insights about celebrity pastors, Jordan Peterson and other fascinating phenomena! rofree.info/one/video/2Jhqo5t6n8R6nqw.html
Please invite Dr. Frank Turek on your show
Who was the pastor and what did he do?
So when males wear short shorts it's overtly sexual but when females do it, it's just them being confident in their body. Got it
This could have been a podcast feat just Joe talking to himself lol.
im christian. and i hate celebrity pastors.... but what struck me here is the short shorts bit.. i have some shorts that are short, now joe may have made a point, and i may start tossing away them shorties hahaha...
Ohhh, so it was THAT preacher... In that case, total shocker, lol.
As a Christian, I agree that “celebrity pastors” are ridiculous. They exalt themselves when they are supposed to be lifting up the name of Jesus.
I met Justin Beiber and Pastor dickroot at Starbucks a few years ago in LA
I was waiting for his response! He nailed that guy right on the Dick.
I will always love the picture of joey diaz in the intro
You can only survive one master
Joe got George Lucas in the studio 😂
Random watched fear factor last night the one with the rats and the one with the worms
As a young skinny jean wearing pastor, I can personally say the way someone dresses isn't an indicator of whether or not someone is "actually a pastor". Pastors are people too and there's been plenty of "suit and ties" who have made similar mistakes as Carl Lentz. This is about character and integrity, so I don't get the whole argument about clothing and whatnot.
Jamie will you raise the treble on the guest’s mic
You talk like it's a bug not a feature. It was a hustle. This wasn't the first time. He used religion to get even more
I disagree with rogan all the time but when he gets a fraud in his sights...lol there’s no one better. You can tell he hates fakes.
I've always felt that whether a Pastor caters to celebrities or leads churches big enough to be a flying televangelist, their failure as preachers start when they become too politically correct and change the narrative of what the Bible was supposed to teach just so that they won't offend their target crowd just like on polarizing issues like sexual immorality or how much to give when supporting a church financially. Of course the Bible teaches about grace and forgiveness, but being exposed makes life harder for these Pastors because suddenly everyone thinks they're no different from talk show hosts or pro wrestlers when they've tasted a bit of fame.
Check it out www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/about.html
Scientologists or churches like this in Tampa. FL also seek celebrities for their money.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. - 2 Timothy 3:1-7
Ok... who clicked the link thinking it was George Lucas
Performative pastors. That's my definition.
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I'm a fan of JR. I will say he loves to hear when a Christian falls so he can talk bad about them. Its a side of him that I dont care for.
All these preachers are the same: Steve furtick, Judah smith, Carl lentz, rich wilkerson jr, chad veach, They probably dick down chicks for the lord
Celebrity cult leaders should be the title.
This is why I don't like children acting so early in life and becoming famous early. Most of them don't survive it.
Seperation of church & state = state run church
Joe "I can't even imagine" Rogan
No Spotify in my country...and December 1st is so close..fucccck
Laderman: Drugs can be one way to... Joe: it's the most common way! Joe: have you tried DMT?
Is Joe Rogan talking about himself here?
This guy is so energetic 🙄
Get this"pastor" on the Podcast.
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Dear Joe, now that you are in Texas please reach out to Matt Chandler who is a pastor there. He will clear up the many misconceptions you have on what it means to be a follower of Christ. Continue to be brave and humble and do it. Love your show.
Who’s the fucking pastor
He's renting an a house for 16k a month, a pastor rending a house for 16k a month...
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Hey Joe! Look up Doreen Virtue on ROfree! She has many people on sharing how they left the prosperity, new age gospels or word of faith. I think that would be a great discussion between you and her!
Is that there’s no such thing as hip pastors. God save these troubled souls.
You should interview ray comfort
Ray comfort
Joe Rogan and ray comfort
Wow! Seriously how does Joe Rogan have a more discerning and sound theological take on this than a lot of those in the pews or pulpit. Good job sir!
Predators posing as Pastors.
Joe really needs to have Anthony Keidis on the show. Ideally the whole lineup of the chili peppers but at LEAST Anthony and Flea
How the devil himself show the fingers
“You will be hated by all for my namesake.” Luke 21:17
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I think you’d have respect for him after
Have Carl on the show