CEO of Whole Foods Defends Capitalism, Talks Socialism

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  1. Wolf.
    Wolf.
    Acum o Zi

    The early hatred againnst jews was not motivated by an anti-business sentiment. It was religiously motivated at first, and because of the restrictions put on them for certain jobs, they often ended up running businesses and banks. Then they became wealthy through that and became hated even more. A vicious cycle, so to speak.

  2. Matthew A
    Matthew A
    Acum o Zi

    Wow, totally side with joe. This man is crazy!? You do well in school= profit. Make tons of relationships in college= destruction of the world. wtf is this logic . He has dementia just listen!? He does not have complete thoughts.

  3. dano elmucho
    dano elmucho
    Acum 2 Zile

    It is amazing that we are alive in the time of Elon Musk.

  4. Andrew Caldwell
    Andrew Caldwell
    Acum 3 Zile

    This guy has NO IDEA what Socialism is

  5. Kuznetskii Bassein
    Kuznetskii Bassein
    Acum 4 Zile

    Lumping all intellectuals together, philosophers and engineers and geologists, wtf. CEOs have bs perspectives and want every subsidy and tax cut for their 'free' market corporations. 'Conscious capitailsm ' is the same business as usual profiteering through externalizing costs onto rivals, taxpayers, the environment, with pretty PR. Wow, lots of issues here as I listen. There are so many abuses under caitalism, esp with deregulation! Show the examples of Denmark and Sweden, and not eastern Europe, with regard to environmental degradation. Joe pushes back effectively, esp the lobbying efforts of corporations to capture both political parties- successfully in last forty years, to undermine deregulation. Today's CEOs have so many blind spots; they need another FDR to save their own failing system. Socialism is just the economic body's individual cells demanding equality in the face of actual biological decline and death.

  6. Carlos Nells
    Carlos Nells
    Acum 4 Zile

    Nowadays Jesus is pictured waving a sword.

  7. FrankFit
    FrankFit
    Acum 5 Zile

    "Win win win ... game" is not exactly a fair game... my work is undervalued, my mony is getting devalued and I am not better off...

  8. Cap'n Grace
    Cap'n Grace
    Acum 6 Zile

    What an arrogant prick. He's still using the logic that money is a direct measure of value and people are logical.

  9. Name Name
    Name Name
    Acum 11 Zile

    Anyone notice how it's always the rich that tell you socialism is bad?

    1. zxcvbnm
      zxcvbnm
      Acum 9 Zile

      socialism is bad for the rich that is why

  10. RecentR
    RecentR
    Acum 11 Zile

    He's giving the standard libertarian textbook answer which has valid points, but does not explain the problems of an empire where the upper class is a kind of modern intermarried aristocracy and controls both the state and the top corporations. You vote left, the upper class wins. You vote right, the upper class wins. You either get exploited by the gov or the corporations. The main reason why people still fall for socialism is not the waffling of the intellectuals. It's the horrible wages, the long working hours and how bad you get treated by those companies. Families like the Kochs have bought up libertarianism and kept it very basic and stuck in the 1960s. And the more families like the Kochs put money into this libertarianism, the less likely it becomes that libertarians actually win elections.

  11. Alex Turner
    Alex Turner
    Acum 14 Zile

    I think he was really on a good point but maybe 25 percent ego 25 less money than anyone else 25 be looked down upon after school 25 the government abusing educators

  12. Rough Habit
    Rough Habit
    Acum 16 Zile

    This guy hit the nail on the head . If there’s corruption in government then it’s not capitalism’s fault . After all governments are socialist organs , and the bigger they get the more corrupt they become. “Socialism of any type or shade leads to the total destruction of the human spirit “ Shafarevich. One mans profit is another mans profit. Who cares how rich some people are? The names on those rich peoples lists change by 50% every few years. Under a Socialist regime the same people stay in power for ever . Envy is a sin . Let it go.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 14 Zile

      What if Capitalism and Socialism isn't what you think it is? What if they have definitions like this: Capitalism: Means of production being controlled by private interest groups like CEO's and/or board of directors. Socialism: Means of production being controlled by workers like Worker Cooperatives. And what if people don't actually care how rich a person is, but instead care more about how they made it and how it impacts everyone else? There is a big difference between a person who worked hard for the money they gain and a person who scams people, right?

  13. MCMP
    MCMP
    Acum 17 Zile

    Vietnam is a good example. Look into it. Its always failed in the past as the leaders are bad e.g. dictators. When you get a non corrupt government that makes decisions for what is best for people, everyone wins. Western governments take bribes and make decisions based on what will bring them votes. No party politics with just the best people for the job is the way forward. Right down the middle centrist politics. Logical, common sense politics. No screwing rich people, but protecting the needy. There is a middle ground and no party politics is the way forward and the way to end the silly left Vs right division we currently have.

    1. MCMP
      MCMP
      Acum 17 Zile

      Almost no beggars and homeless in Vietnam. Their system has only been going for 50 years or so after the country was torn apart. No big government with bloated departments creating never ending red tape. Just decisive common sense rules with a very strong emphasis on nurturing community unity and happiness. Just because the ruling party has the word “communist” in the name, doesn’t mean it is a socialist or communist country (don't think of it as one Vs the other). They use some of the thoughts of people like Lenin, but the common good is protected. Only the price of a few things like rice are set. Otherwise it’s capitalism. There are some freedom restrictions (personal and media), but I am on the fence and possibly in favor of them, as those things made covid an irrelevant issue, only 35 deaths out of 95 million people. Small, fast acting government with the people’s best interests at heart meant they have easily killed off the outbreaks. Easily. While the west are endlessly debating and reacting to the past data, Vietnam acted proactively before there were any deaths. Because they have quality genuine people leading who do what should be done. It does have bad air quality but that’s coincidental because they don’t have the money to fix it yet, but they want to. It's definitely a country the world should be studying, especially for how to deal with covid. Its like a nice big safety bubble here. I inhaled thousands of droplets from people on a normal packed new years eve in Hanoi. It was shoulder to shoulder jam packed and I felt zero need to wear a mask. Not least because there were no cases at all in the city, if not the whole country at that time. Most cases seem to be from repatriation flights and everyone gets quarantined so it doesn't spread. We all have problems just following communist thinkers like Lenin and maybe Vietnam will. But right now it's awesome. IMO no need for left Vs right, socialism Vs capitalism. There is a perfectly logical middle ground where everyone gets human rights, the opportunity to have their own businesses and prosper. Small businesses are doing fine and most people have a small family business, they don't work like drones for greedy corporations. There are a thousand times more entrepreneurs here than in the west. Small local businesses thrive, pribably partly because the government doesn't give big corporations a free ride with tax and whatnot.

  14. Nikki Stixx
    Nikki Stixx
    Acum 17 Zile

    All these “smart people” in business these days you’d think they could prevent market crashes, and Fortune 500 companies from closing. You could easily take someone without an education put them in an atmosphere where they are surrounded by Wall Street business and everything and they will learn and adapt. That’s what humans do.

  15. Nikki Stixx
    Nikki Stixx
    Acum 17 Zile

    People who have a degree and think they are “smarter” than someone without a degree proves exactly why their college education DOESN’T make them any smarter lol..... just because you know everything about working on WallStreet, doesn’t mean you are more intelligent than someone who works at a clothing store or something. Everybody knows more about certain subjects than others. Degrees are simply a tool that is used when you are trying to make a career. It’s means absolutely nothing. I have a college degree and I’ll guarantee that I’m smarter than this guy in certain ways and he’s smarter than me in certain areas.

    1. Nikki Stixx
      Nikki Stixx
      Acum 16 Zile

      @Hunterchuck I agree with you. I was referring to what the guy talking to Joe said. His “ smart people” example was a ridiculous thing to say and even Joe didn’t think it was such a good idea to use as his example to explain his “point”....

    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 16 Zile

      I'm pretty sure nobody goes to college to get a degree to become "Smarter". People go to college to get a degree because a lot of jobs that pay decently require college education. This is a ridiculous thing to rant about anyways because what is "Smart" anyways? There is too much information in this world for any single individual to obtain and retain. The most we can do is specialize in a specific field of expertise and focus on that for our short lives.

  16. Nikki Stixx
    Nikki Stixx
    Acum 17 Zile

    If someone has a degree that doesn’t mean they are smarter than someone who doesn’t have a degree. I can say from people who I know that have degrees, they have ZERO common sense, or actual real life intelligence. They are book smart, told what to learn and someone who is out there in the world and in society everyday working, and surviving without a higher education can often times be way “smarter” than having a college degree. That was a terrible example.

  17. koen klinkhamer
    koen klinkhamer
    Acum 18 Zile

    Perfect example of what is wrong with society. One cannot survive without the other. The world needs entrepeneurs, but they could not survive without scientist. We all need eachother and we all have different qualities but we need it all for it to function. Without darkness there can be no light. Respect and accept that we have different opinions and learn from it. Divide and conquer is the oldest war strategy that exist. Joe is a very knowledgeable guy.

  18. Carlo A. Vitulo
    Carlo A. Vitulo
    Acum 20 Zile

    My good this is guy is very narrow minded.

  19. Cole
    Cole
    Acum 21 o Zi

    Socialism is resentment.

  20. Jake
    Jake
    Acum 21 o Zi

    Joe turns this guys a**hole inside out when he starts saying meat is the cause of heart disease, hilarious. This guy doesn't even know what a scientific theory is, thinks its a hypothesis pulled out of someones a**.

  21. goatsucker von sasquatch
    goatsucker von sasquatch
    Acum 22 Zile

    The United States is a country that mixes capitalism and socialism why can't anyone own this

    1. zxcvbnm
      zxcvbnm
      Acum 9 Zile

      what

  22. New Ona
    New Ona
    Acum 23 Zile

    Joe is such a loser. Literally moved to Texas to not pay taxes yet he’s the socialist moral code.

  23. Jake
    Jake
    Acum 24 Zile

    god im so tired of hearing these political conversations.

  24. Duke Cally
    Duke Cally
    Acum 26 Zile

    Whether capitalism or socialism the environment will still be impacted what difference does it make what label it has. Socialism would actually be worse because government has full control with absolutely no one to stop them. It’s simple af. Socialism does not work. These rich kids who feel so guilty need to appreciate they’re lives instead of being rediculous

  25. Duke Cally
    Duke Cally
    Acum 26 Zile

    Whoever thinks socialism works is out of they’re brainwashed minds

  26. issaciams
    issaciams
    Acum 27 Zile

    This guy sucks. Does he not realize how many social programs we have already? So democratic socialism can work by just expanding the programs we already have.

  27. Jesse Carrillo
    Jesse Carrillo
    Acum 27 Zile

    Jesus is King

  28. Fiona Baker
    Fiona Baker
    Acum 27 Zile

    ... the Soviet Union was communist not socialist. Communism and socialism are not the same thing. Many European countries (France, Germany, Sweden, Holland, etc) are socialist and they’re doing very well and aren’t anti business.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 27 Zile

      Communism is not a command economy like the USSR, they are not the same thing. The European nations are not Socialist either. They are Capitalist. Socialism: Means of production being controlled by the workers (Worker cooperatives) Capitalism: Means of production being controlled by a private interest group (CEO and/or Board of Directors) Socialism is workplace democracy and Capitalism is workplace totalitarianism.

  29. Cesar Perez
    Cesar Perez
    Acum 28 Zile

    His argument doesnt hold up to scrutiny

  30. Andrew Piccuilla
    Andrew Piccuilla
    Acum 28 Zile

    This guy is so full of crap of course he is going to defend a sysrem that worked for him

  31. Creative Picture
    Creative Picture
    Acum 29 Zile

    If Capitalism makes you greedy, Socialism will make you numb. -Michael Belay.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 28 Zile

      Stupid remark by that guy but ok, and which sounds less harmful in that context? 🤦‍♂️

  32. Houssam Nekkaa
    Houssam Nekkaa
    Acum lună

    The 2008 bailout was socialism At it's most extreme

  33. Tocket03
    Tocket03
    Acum lună

    "intellectuals are the enemy of capitalism". So people who can critically think dislike capitalism. Huh, wonder why?

  34. TheBucketSkill
    TheBucketSkill
    Acum lună

    The USSR is the perfect example, i'm glad he used it as one. It is literally the most successful socialist country ever.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      The USSR was not socialist. There is a difference between a command economy and Socialism.

  35. Matt Herbert
    Matt Herbert
    Acum lună

    market economy

  36. maswell
    maswell
    Acum lună

    Most of the big Socialist revolutions killed all the intellectuals very early on. The Soviet Union, Mao's China.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      What do you think the Soviet Union and Mao's China tells us? Every socialist can easily answer this by the way. But i know you can't 😉

  37. Alberto Castillo
    Alberto Castillo
    Acum lună

    rofree.info/one/video/s7OCb2lmf5NqfIY.html

  38. IAN 4000
    IAN 4000
    Acum lună

    I feel bad for the people that listened to this CEO and didn't realize they were being strung along. Obviously this old rich guy is going to say anything he can to protect capitalism. And from the sheer number of bad-faith talking points he used, it's pretty clear he doesn't care at all which system is better for most people. As if this guy cares what situation is a "win" for his employees. Ask him or any CEO what they think about unions, where employees actually hold the leverage necessary to protect their own interests.

  39. properly numb
    properly numb
    Acum lună

    Socialism and Capitalism are the yin and yang of our economy. They are not mentioned in our Constitution. The Free Market is. These two are not forms of government. They are tools. Capitalism leverages wealth to create wealth. Socialism uses wealth to advance the human condition. Joe's right: Our system of government allows for large sums of money to influence those who represent. Bottom line: "The money is better in my pocket than yours."

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      There isn't enough worker cooperatives for our economy to be anywhere close to a yin/yang representation of capitalism and socialism. You might have your definitions of capitalism and socialism mixed up with something else. Capitalism: Means of production and distribution in the hands of the private interest group. (CEO or board of directors) Socialism: Means of production and distribution in the hands of the workers. (Worker cooperatives)

  40. Jon I
    Jon I
    Acum lună

    "intellectuals have always been the enemy of capitalism" Adam Smith: ??????

  41. jdragon jds
    jdragon jds
    Acum lună

    the clap of injust

  42. FOREVER PRMNT
    FOREVER PRMNT
    Acum lună

    Everyone’s a socialist till they start making money - Unknown

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      The whole point of class conflict is that the interests of owners and workers are opposed to one another, not that one is inherently bad.

    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Everyone's a socialist if they are a worker. If you own a business and have people do work for you then you are no longer a socialist but a capitalist. So obviously this is why people are pointing out in the comments with "Oh what a surprise! A CEO is defending capitalism."

  43. B Taind
    B Taind
    Acum lună

    Bring Jordan Peterson on the show

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Jordan Peterson is a grifter though.

  44. konjino78
    konjino78
    Acum lună

    "Win-win-win" yeah right, tell that to minimum wage cashier at Walmart who has no rights or benefits to protect her/him. When shit hits the fan, us peasants are the ones taking consequences, not people like Jeff Bezos. They make money on our misery.

    1. Rough Habit
      Rough Habit
      Acum 16 Zile

      Wait up, let me get my violin out.

    2. thereisnoplanb
      thereisnoplanb
      Acum 26 Zile

      @Quinn Krause theoretically yeah but in practice richer people have access to a plethora of legal benefits (patents, grants, bailouts) that your average layman does not have

    3. Quinn Krause
      Quinn Krause
      Acum lună

      Uhhh excuse me sir. They have the same rights as the person who owns Walmart

  45. yourma2000
    yourma2000
    Acum lună

    "The Soviet Union was a bad example of socialism." Lol, you don't want your cancer hitting stage 4? You want it to stay at stage 1 or 2?

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Armor of the Faith 1. It doesn't matter if you said those words directly or not when you are heavily implying that you mean just that. "it has NOT BEEN TRIED BEFORE , that is , IN A DEMOCRACY (AKIN TO SCANDINAVIA) IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS" --- And the number of people doesn't matter. What matters is if the same model can be afforded and the answer is an obvious yes from one of the richest nations in the world. 2. What does "blacks and whites being at war with eachother" have to do with the nordic model though? You just randomly threw it in there as if it has an impact on the economy. And if you are so worried about the "War" then maybe you should stop saying lines like "I wouldn't hire blacks if I owned a business!" 🤦‍♂️ 3. You're saying that it is illogical to say that higher populations generate more income while at the same time pointing to high population nations with the highest GDP. 🤦‍♂️ 4. I have no idea what you are rambling on about at this point....🤦‍♂️ Yes you can kick rocks now. Good day.

    2. Armor of the Faith
      Armor of the Faith
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck so you are gonna start with putting words in my mouth? When did I say that? 1. "Higher population nations cannot afford public services or welfare systems that lower populations can" I did not say that, I said "you can't compare" and the reason is because it has NOT BEEN TRIED BEFORE , that is , IN A DEMOCRACY (AKIN TO SCANDINAVIA) IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS ..the USA population is 382 million, the population of Denmark is a little lower than 6 million... in contrast NY city ALONE has a population of over 8 million. Anyone who owns a business knows that handling 70 employees to handling 700 thousand (like Amazon) is a huge difference , it takes up way more resources, time , effort and any other metric you'd like to throw in. There is just NO COMPARISON between the USA and Denmark. 2. "Being culturally diverse means worse economy" I DID NOT SAY THAT EITHER ...the word "economy" wasn't even in my entire post. Subcultures do impact the economies of countries ...it's easier to run a largely homogenous country which is mostly white like Denmark than a culturally diverse country like the USA where blacks and whites are constantly at war with each other and everything has become about race..are you not watching the news? In contrast you said this word by word : "logically the population, the greater it is to fund anything since there is more income generated due to the larger population". THIS IS FALSE and pretty stupid actually , a larger population doesn't necessarily mean it generates more income, the per capita of Qatar for example is 91,600 PPP dollars with a population of 2.83 million ...India with a population of 1.366 BILLION people the per capita is 6, 900 PPP dollars. (The word "socialist"was added to the constitution of India by the way not long ago) The Chinese in Indonesia at one point were only 5% of the population and they owned 80% of the capital of the country. There is something called HUMAN CAPITAL that you need to google , certain ethnic groups and races are more likely to generate wealth than others such as Jews, Germans and Chinese , trying to "equalize" those differences by imposing socialism could be detrimental to an economy, more so because others generate little (pretty much any African country with a few exceptions). In the US 34% of the prison population are black , taking up resources despite being only 13.4% of US population...the rate of single black mothers , a lot of them on welfare (that you think is so great) is reaching a whooping 80% so what wealth do you think blacks generate in the USA? Racial diversity also creates isolated subcultures such as some Chinese suburbs in California where all businesses are Chinese owned and mostly Chinese is spoken there. In NM and Arizona there are entire neighborhoods that are entirely Mexican , with Mexican stores , bars, repair centers and so on and people working there are either bilingual or Spanish is only spoken there. Subculture does matter a country with no subculture and that's hugely smaller than the US (Denmark or Sweden) and predominantly white, logically could be easier to be run in a democratic socialist system. That system like I said has not been tried before in a scale as large as the USA. The Soviet Union was very large but it wasn't democratic at all ..and it collapsed in 1991, China is also not exactly a democracy but an autocracy and on the verge of being a totalitarian state. Do you want to become China 2.0? go ahead I don't like totalitarianism. I don't like how this is going ...you put words in my mouth a lot and I don't like it...I have better things to do. Cheers

    3. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Armor of the Faith Yes I'm excited to see the Nazi sources that back up the two claims you made. 1. Higher population nations cannot afford public services or welfare systems that lower population nations can. 2. Being culturally diverse means worse economy. ---- I'll patiently await for you to back that up with some substantial evidence.

    4. Armor of the Faith
      Armor of the Faith
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck most of the “experts” you are mentioning are leftists brother. It’s like asking a Nazi to describe the Holocaust to you. Three are gonna be lots of half truths, deliberate omissions and poorly framed justifications for failure of socialist agendas Ok I’ll get back to you I’m busy at the moment.

    5. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Armor of the Faith By all means provide a .edu source to 'debunk' the info i get from credible .edu sources. It's not like what I'm saying comes from me. Everything I know comes from the experts. 🤷‍♂️

  46. Tyler
    Tyler
    Acum lună

    Sounds like every other wealthy old white dude. He just had it wrong. Business IS inherently greedy. That's the point.

  47. B C
    B C
    Acum lună

    Every time I hear John Mackey has said something, it makes me think he sucks. I'm not a socialist, but it seems clear to me the "rise of socialism" isn't b/c college professors are deluding students. That's a silly angry grandpa argument. And it seems clear to me professors aren't left leaning b/c they are bitter about the businessmen being cooler in society. They became professors b/c they think devoting one's waking hours to things like building a grocery store chain is freaking lame. Ideas are interesting. Calculating how quickly your reserves of fresh fruit will spoil and applying that information to adjust your supply chains is not. Professors aren't resentful of businessmen. They think businessmen are boring.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      If you are a worker then you're a socialist. Socialism is just workers owning the means of production/distribution rather than private interest groups. Worker cooperatives are basically perfect examples of this in action. The only way you would be able to identify as a non-socialist is by becoming one of the elites who control and own the labor of the workers.

  48. Conrad F
    Conrad F
    Acum lună

    Rich guy supports capitalism who’d of thunk

  49. J NicHole Hodges
    J NicHole Hodges
    Acum lună

    Bye byyyeee, luv this epi clip. . . Enjoy u to the extreme Joe. . Rogan eXperience. Martial Arts bound I am

  50. Bret .Maverick
    Bret .Maverick
    Acum lună

    Capitalism is great. Creates competition and innovation. You can rise to the top and when you have gotten rid of your competition then you can make your product out cheaper quality materials and coast off your name.

    1. zxcvbnm
      zxcvbnm
      Acum 9 Zile

      @Hunterchuck thanks for replying to these people

    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      There is not really competition in capitalism. I'm pretty sure someone well versed in economics would be able to explain to you why this is the case when pointing out monopsonies, monopolies, oligopolies, patents, non-competes, and so forth. There is no way that a new business can just come about and compete with the already established corporations that have a lot of market power and therefore control the market and the prices. Not only that but competition by its very nature is the elimination of competition. This is why you don't see any sport where all the teams are winners. Each team knocks the others out of the race until only one stands. That's what competition does. Also, innovation isn't correlated with capitalism. If anything capitalism is anti-innovative because most of the time the same product is reused by only changed slightly.

  51. JodaHoffman
    JodaHoffman
    Acum lună

    Why is this a conversation about pure socialism vs pure capitalism? Neither even exist on a broad level.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Pure Capitalism does exist though. Capitalism is the means of production and distribution in the hands of private interests. This is basically the entire world. We do not see worker cooperatives (Socialism) on a broad level though.

  52. Mitchell Soto
    Mitchell Soto
    Acum lună

    This guy seems like he has great ideas but cannot externalize it well. And I get it, Capitalism isn’t as sexy as socialism, but he can do better.

  53. Zaqariah Lowell
    Zaqariah Lowell
    Acum lună

    Being just book smart is just stupid, if you can't apply knowledge then it's useless

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Theory from all fields get applied every day. People who have no perspective on what intellectuals even do love to claim how useless it is. This guy is bitter about intellectualism because historians keep overwhelmingly saying that class conflict is a useful way to view human society, and that fact poses a political threat to his wealth.

    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Tell that to every inventor, scientist and educator who is book smart. This is just the rambling of a rich CEO who is trying to convince himself out loud that he earned his wealth through hard work.

  54. Charles Dicus
    Charles Dicus
    Acum lună

    This is such a head in the clouds take. Workers benefit because its in their best interest to work. Like no shit if the situation is you work or you starve you're gonna work. just because your better off doesn't mean your winning.

  55. Jacob C
    Jacob C
    Acum lună

    There will always be something to envy of your neighbor, a relationship, happiness, beauty, better hair, height, weight, etc

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    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Guess Moyo Things always change if you pay any attention to history. Will things change in my lifetime? Most likely not but that's not going to stop me from pointing out the obvious to people who seem to miss it. And I'm doing fine on a personal level. I own my own business so there's no huffing and puffing on my end. But it does seem like you are nervous about people like me spreading the truth. For what reason did you feel compelled to reply to me specifically with something like that? 🤔

    3. Guess Moyo
      Guess Moyo
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck well it's not about working hard work alone is not going to get you anywhere complaining too you can huff and puff all you want in the ROfree comment section but nothing is going to change the rich are going to stay wealthy. The only way u can make it through your own ambition and ideas the school system is not In place to make billionaires.

    4. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      This conversation isn't about envy. This is rambling from a rich CEO who is trying to convince themselves out loud that they earned their wealth through hard work in a society where people worker harder and contribute more to the economy/society but come nowhere close to that kind of wealth. The reason why he is doing this is because people are starting to realize that there are a few people who are taking advantage of the system and screwing people over to achieve excess luxury without earning it. 🤷‍♂️

    5. Jordan Cunanan
      Jordan Cunanan
      Acum lună

      The most perfect comment ever. I agree. 👍😎👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  56. Colin Hay
    Colin Hay
    Acum lună

    The vast majority of intellectuals provide aid to market capitalism by (mostly unwittingly) creating an illusion of critique, while in actuality setting clear boundaries of what can/can't be criticized without being considered insane. Bc concentrated wealth funds, and therefore has the greatest shaping power over education, media, advertising, technology, scientific research, government etc, it can naturally self-select for a spectrum of accepted discourse that benefits its interests. In this way, by the time an intellectual gets to a position of having a public voice, they already (usually) unwittingly fall into that spectrum of thought or else they would have been weeded out already. There is a small minority of intellectual dissidents who actually do challenge power, but they are largely dismissed, attacked, ridiculed and/or otherwise censored bc of the implications of the model outlined above. The internet has begun to slightly change this model, but the internet carries its own set of problems that have thus far prevented the model from changing in any significant way. I believe that it's very important for every citizen to understand this. This man's assertion shows the model at work, and ideally should be a surprise to no one.

  57. Alexander R
    Alexander R
    Acum lună

    I had a professor in college, who once went off on a rant, on how professors like him are not paid enough. He had three Masters degrees (non-STEM), so definitely in a capitalist society even your tittles come second, is all about what you’re able to provide the economy.

    1. New Ona
      New Ona
      Acum 23 Zile

      Uni professors make 150 THOUSAND+

    2. Jake
      Jake
      Acum 24 Zile

      yes, *what you can provide!* Not what you can consume

  58. John Rambo
    John Rambo
    Acum lună

    Win win win, yeah I don't think the environment is winning in any capitalist scenario

    1. Daniel Markkula
      Daniel Markkula
      Acum lună

      Haha yeah!

  59. Joseph Miller
    Joseph Miller
    Acum lună

    The G.I. Bill was and is a good socialist governmental program! It created the middle class!

  60. Singh Wit Me
    Singh Wit Me
    Acum lună

    AMERICAAAA

  61. MarcTheBarber
    MarcTheBarber
    Acum lună

    If they are so smart why they choosing the route that makes them less money 🥴

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Well they could not be professors and we could have no schools and therefore no education. 🤷‍♂️

  62. Sitting Bull
    Sitting Bull
    Acum lună

    Once had a friend who thought Elon was dumb because he created Tesla, and that same friend failed environmental science in the first quarter of his 9th grade year

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Sitting Bull Yeah Unions are extremely important. There are nations in this world that don't have a minimum wage because the unions there are really strong and the workers have better rights and working conditions than America. In Denmark McDonalds employees make $22/hour for example. The problem is that Unions give workers too much power in the eyes of the business owner class so they will obviously work to destroy or limit them. America did have some decent unions in the 50's and 60's which is why the working class was better off during that time period but the rich did a splendid job of busting them. 🤷‍♂️

    2. Sitting Bull
      Sitting Bull
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck it’s just why hate on someone for creating one company, idk why he doesn’t hate on Jeff bezos if my friend is a so called “socialist” even though he doesn’t believe in the economic side of socialism, and why I’m bring Bezos is because he’s preventing his workers from unionizing.

    3. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Yeah that story seems to check out if they said Elon is dumb because he created Tesla. Elon is dumb though. 🤷‍♂️

  63. Mustafa Ghali
    Mustafa Ghali
    Acum lună

    If you "read" (more like listen) between the lines, Joe Rogan was kinda grilling this asshole.

  64. Skrch_God
    Skrch_God
    Acum lună

    Appeal to nature is one of the most basic logical fallacies. There's a reason this guy isn't an intellectual and it's not because he was in a frat.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      All he needs to do is go one step further on the appeal to nature and we can finally swing from trees again with banana's in hand!

  65. Skrch_God
    Skrch_God
    Acum lună

    I have never seen someone describe intellectuals as the reactionaries. This is someone who has governed his whole philosophy off of Revenge of the Nerds.

  66. J
    J
    Acum lună

    There is no win-win-win, there are losers in capitalism as well. This guy is describing communism and claiming that's socialism. Capitalism is an economic system that's going nowhere and socialism describes laws passed for the benefit of the populace. Speaking like it's 1 versus the other means nothing. Also that greed is necessary as motivation doesn't excuse its immorality or make it less of a problem when combined with wealth.

  67. DMG
    DMG
    Acum lună

    This guy is talking out of his arse. The most successful entrepreneurs are all intellectuals. They might not be in Academia but you should be damn sure that those guys, Musk, Gates, Bezos, etc., they were fucking nerds in school. Look at a picture of Jeff Bezos from the 90s. A dork! Also being in Academia does not mean you are smart or intellectual or analytical thinker. Look at what is happening all over the world with social studies scholars driving STEM into a corner and forcing their bullshit on them.

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      "social studies scholars driving STEM into a corner" What are you talking about bud?

  68. Payton
    Payton
    Acum lună

    A CEO talking about employees “always winning” is total bullshit. Employees always lose in capitalism. The employer pays the worker small fraction of the value they create and pockets the rest without doing any of the labor. I would argue that workers would have MORE motivation and incentives to work under socialism because they would keep the value they have created.

  69. Victor Domachev
    Victor Domachev
    Acum lună

    Has Joe Rogan ever hosted opposite sides of socialism v capitalism issue?

  70. Le Bowe
    Le Bowe
    Acum lună

    the guy with the most over priced store is talking about greed lol

    1. New Ona
      New Ona
      Acum 23 Zile

      I’m fine with paying for good quality products because I prioritize my money, but I’m sure you pay $50+ on junk food regularly and have nothing to say about it

    2. Le Bowe
      Le Bowe
      Acum lună

      @terminallyCapricious lol he wont reply...he had to drop his charlie kirk talking point and bounce hahahhaha

    3. terminallyCapricious
      terminallyCapricious
      Acum lună

      @Robert Sounds like your opinion on an American company that isn’t in Germany is irrelevant then

    4. Le Bowe
      Le Bowe
      Acum lună

      @Robert who says i buy his over priced products.....

    5. Robert
      Robert
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck Ok, then I understand. Im from Germany and im and I dont know the whole food prices.

  71. Le Bowe
    Le Bowe
    Acum lună

    rofree.info/one/video/rctmfn-ljriHmaA.html

  72. Lorenzo Gregory
    Lorenzo Gregory
    Acum lună

    not socialism..social democracyyy,,iykyk

  73. Liddy G
    Liddy G
    Acum lună

    Socialists started out giving socialist countries as examples, like Venezuela, but they always ended up looking bad when it collapsed. Now they prey on the ignorance of their voters and they claim capitalist countries like Denmark are socialist.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @Liddy G Good link. I'm not sure why anyone would make such a remark about those nations being about to achieve anything when America already established institutions such as the OAS to monitor and control the elections in those nations during the cold war with the USSR. The idea was to make sure socialism and communism never succeeds in those nations because we saw the USSR as a clear and present threat to us. Anyone who thinks socialism is possible in these countries needs a bonk on the head lol Even Fox News acknowledged that Venezuela isn't a socialist nation here: www.foxnews.com/world/what-socialism-private-sector-still-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade

    2. Liddy G
      Liddy G
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck They all did it, including Bernie. Bernie posted this on his own website before Venezuela collapsed... "These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?" It stayed up for a ong time but now the link no longer works. www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america you can still see it on the internet archives web.archive.org/web/20190103231410/www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america

    3. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      Never heard of any socialist pointing to Venezuela as a great example of 'socialism'. They did used to point to the USSR because Russia became a superpower rivaling America so that makes sense. Sadly for them, socialism has nothing to do with government involvement 🤷‍♂️ Socialism already exists in America through worker cooperatives. Workers owning the means of production collectively is what socialism is after all. Denmark and other Scandinavian countries are still capitalist but have strong worker unions and a more robust welfare system. I can understand the hype of those nations since they are apparently achieving things that America seems incapable of but they definitely should get their facts straight. 🤣

    4. Liddy G
      Liddy G
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U Because Denmark is the main example given by progressives in the US but if you actually look at Denmark policies its nothing like the policies of Bernie Sanders and AOC.

    5. Liddy G
      Liddy G
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U The idea that the rich ever paid 90% in taxes is a myth. JFK lowered taxes to bring the economy back up and it worked. Its one of the reasons JFK was killed by the CIA because his policies were helping all Americans and not just the rich. N one tricked me, one reason I voted for Trump is because he was for working people. Again its why the CIA wanted him out along with Amazon, Google, Disney, . and every other big multinational corporation. The only ones who got tricked are those who voted for Biden because AT&T, Comcast, and Disney told them to. The US today is a Corporatocracy, its not socialist or free market capitalism.

  74. Santi Merino
    Santi Merino
    Acum lună

    I like this man👍

  75. CAL_CONCEPTS
    CAL_CONCEPTS
    Acum lună

    Yeah, all those intellectuals who hate change, especially those socialist intellectuals who kick-started one of the most violent and drastic changes to a country that influenced geopolitics for the next one hundred years HMMMMMMM (To be clear I'm not socialist and I'm capitalist but this is horrible framing from someone who seems to have a very one sided view of history)

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @CAL_CONCEPTS "I mean you did literally claim that there were no issues under Stalin" ---- Yup you got me on that one. I realized that i should have been more clear with you. Didn't realize how much of a moron you are until now. " Your lack of presenting any negative facts or downsides of the USSR is also an issue" ---- BORING. Then we'd just be circlejerking eachother off by repeating what everyone already knows. I find it more of an issue that you are only stating the negative facts and refusing to acknowledge the progress that was brought to the Russian people after the revolution. You stated in your very first post "this is horrible framing from someone who seems to have a very one sided view of history" so my first reponse was just probing your thought process. You're no different from John Mackey it seems. 🤷‍♂️

    2. CAL_CONCEPTS
      CAL_CONCEPTS
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck I mean you did literally claim that there were no issues under Stalin, so that's a pretty clear indication that you were implying that the USSR was "good" or had zero issues so that's a blatant walk back unless you wanna delete that comment. I'm not going to deny the USSR later became a super power (for a time) but that was only post WWII. They were mostly a regional power throughout it's early history and especially when it was declining. They couldn't even expand into Poland after WWI and were promptly defeated there at the Battle of Warsaw. Their ineptitude was also evident in their disastrous invasion of Finland. If you opened up with "hey while the Soviet Union was a heavily flawed state it did show interesting ways to nationally revamp a poor and economically disastrous country" then I would mostly agree with you. Your lack of presenting any negative facts or downsides of the USSR unless brought up is also an issue and also the implication that there were little to no issues under Stalin. I'll give the USSR credit for certain policies like national industrialization but that also goes hand in hand with the extraction of labor by force of millions and the oppression and killing of millions of other people. Not to mention the secondary effects of a poor and corrupted leadership. I'm willing to admit the Soviet Union excelled in certain areas but clearly that's not how you came into the conversation by calling any negative facts of the now non-existent nation "cold-war propaganda". Funnily enough some of the numbers and historical facts I used were given by Soviet/Russian Historians.

    3. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @CAL_CONCEPTS My "claims" are pretty evident are they not? Russia was a third world nation before the revolution and then after the revolution Russia became a superpower. You are sitting here acting like i believe the USSR was a great thing just because i'm pointing this out. All you are doing is rehashing cold war propaganda that we all know already. Nothing new to see with you. 🤷‍♂️

    4. CAL_CONCEPTS
      CAL_CONCEPTS
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck Your claim: "Russia became better through "socialist" revolution. Refutation: The socialist revolution caused and led to the deaths of the hundreds of millions through a variety of causes including war, famine, central planning, authoritarianism, forced migrations, poor military leaderships and racist polices. Your counter claim: None. Your claim: American's would be working for 12-14 hours a day on pennies without socialists. Refutation: For worker polices were implemented by non-socialists unions and labor groups including both conservative and liberal politicians in the later half o the 19th century and throughout the 20th century. Your counter claim: None. Your claim: "Russia was better off actually and even today many Russians who lived in the USSR would go back to it". Refutation: We don't judge societies based on those who benefitted the most from them while ignoring those it killed and oppressed, and most of those who lived during the USSR were alive for the post Stalin period under "poor leadership" as you state. Your counter claim: None. Your claim: "You do know socialist were much more popular and opinion of socialism was favorable before the cold war, right?". Refutation: Socialism was not popular at all if judged by the number of elected politicians from the socialist party or the national policies implemented. The US also anti-socialist in it's foreign policy. The definition of socialism you're using isn't correct either, the actual definition is worker's owning the means of production. Your counter claim: None. Your claim: "The millions of deaths and starvations stuff is a brief period in the process of the USSR. Under Stalin there wasn't any issues because he basically kept everything on a tight leash". Refutation: Stalin implemented many polices throughout his rule that killed millions which included executions, deportations, ethnically targeted famines, hard labor gulags, forced mass relocation, religious persecutions, etc. He also got many of his own citizens killed due to his meddling in military affairs and lack of preparation for the Nazi invasion of the USSR. This happened for decades before, throughout, and after WWII so it wasn't a brief period. Your counter claim: None. I did honestly missed the comment about the Russian situation before the civil war and while the nation's status was terrible under the rule of Tsar Nicholas II that doesn't make the aftermath successful even if it was better in some ways, and most of the changes that occurred were already happening in other countries such as the US due to industrialization. The USSR wasn't special and much of the substantial growth was it simply catching up to the rest of the world since any government would be more competent than the Tsarist one. This still doesn't address the genocide and poor central planning nor the government sanctioned violence. You haven't kept the facts straight, you've stated claims and I refuted them and then you made vague claims about something else until I refuted them while you have no counter claims or specifics. I'm not trying to be brave or courageous by dunking on Stalin or the USSR, in fact the original post was actually against the video and the claim that intellectuals or socialists change nothing. While better for worse they did effect change and the Whole Foods CEO seems to have a very biased view towards capitalism.

    5. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @CAL_CONCEPTS "I don't really want to debate a Tankie anymore" ---- Telling you to keep the facts straight makes me a tankie. 🤣 Dunking on the USSR and Stalin is not a brave take. And you still haven't gotten the facts straight and seem to ramble a lot. I'd say this conversation is about done. Good talk buddy 😉

  76. Gary Michael Flanagan
    Gary Michael Flanagan
    Acum lună

    The CEO is right. It’s funny, Jordan Peterson said once “if you pay humanities professors as much as businessmen, you would have less socialists”. Something like that. Makes sense. Another great quote by Dennis Prager is that “liberals are smart, but conservatives are wise”. I like that and believe it.

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      If you take anything Dennis Prager says seriously then you, my friend, have brain worms. I'm not even interested in arguing about it. If you watch that stuff and can't tell that it's propaganda aimed at the lowest common denominator then you have brain worms. Feeding your audience complements like "You are the true wise one because you agree with the things I'm telling you" is like dangling a turkey leg in front of a dog. It's not your fault you were tricked by somebody who has a huge budget dedicated entirely to tricking you but come on bro. Media literacy is important.

    2. Gary Michael Flanagan
      Gary Michael Flanagan
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U have you seen all the gaffs? Biden is way less fit to run the country than any President in the history of this nation. I think it’s true liberal derangement to logically vote for someone like this. He puts illegals ahead of blacks and whites, legal Latino citizens. The fact that you can’t see this is staggering. There is nothing wise about the liberal group identity politics, anti American agenda. But, there is nothing I can say that will un-sheep your thinking so go on living in your echo chamber. Thinking for yourself is not your strong suit unfortunately. Let CNN be your guide as they lie to you over and over and you eat it like cereal haha

    3. Zuurker U
      Zuurker U
      Acum lună

      @Gary Michael Flanagan No liberals are wise because they know that experts know that our global society is screwed unless we do something about it. And dont kid yourself. You're already paying taxes for gas pricing subsidies... Which republicans are pushing. Conservatives aren't wise, atleast they haven't shown that they are. A wise person would choose the best option from a statistical standpoint, because they know that facts dont lie. And still conservatives hates a single payer healthcare system. A wise person would know not to sell themself to their billionaire overlord, because they can forsee the consequences. And conservatives love to sell themself (Prager, Trump etc are good examples). Just be honest, conservatives aren't wise or smart in general. They are mostly selfish, and vote from a selfish standpoint.

    4. Gary Michael Flanagan
      Gary Michael Flanagan
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U then are you saying that liberals are wise for voting for higher gas prices as they go to the pump each week? Not wise to me!! Lol

    5. Zuurker U
      Zuurker U
      Acum lună

      Conservatives aren't wise, they objectivly vote against their own intrest.. I guess to "own the libs" or something...

  77. Universe VIII Eight
    Universe VIII Eight
    Acum lună

    Smart man !! I use to live communism and socialism .. Trust me you don't want the government to keep most of your paycheck .. in capitalism you are the CEO of your wallet .

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      > Leaves comment in a ROfree video discussing capitalism vs socialism in America. > Claims they lived in Communism and Socialism > Says they live in the USA > Says they lived in Sweden > Says they lived in Romania > Hates Obama > Talks about welfare and says nothing is free 🤣 Yeah this checks out!

    2. Zuurker U
      Zuurker U
      Acum lună

      @Universe VIII Eight Of course nothing is free, but get a ton for the amount we pay. Those ranking are usually bogus, they never take into account that (atleast Sweden) follow a tax bracket ladder and you get taxed if you're a high consumer. I speak from actual reality, we don't pay the amount people like you claim we are. No one is paying even close to 60% i come tax plus VAT, unless as i said you earn millions per year and spend everything. And ofcourse we psy more in taxes. Our education, eldercare, healthcare and other social programs are funded by taxes. Unlike the US which you hardly get anything.

    3. Universe VIII Eight
      Universe VIII Eight
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U No its not a lie , Sweden is welfare country and nothing is free ... not to mention everything is more expensive ..not just Sweden , the whole EU worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/highest-taxed-countries

    4. Zuurker U
      Zuurker U
      Acum lună

      @Universe VIII Eight That is a lie... Stockholm has some of the lowest taxes in Sweden... You literally can't pay 60% in income tax... here. And if would spend everything you own while earning billions per year you would be capped at 75% (VAT included), which isn't happening. As I said, you're clearly lying about how much you payed in taxes here in Sweden. I pay effectively ~32% in taxes, that includes everything (VAT etc). So I doubt that you payed even close to 60%... Nice employer you have. And I assume you don't pay property tax or anything? xD As i said, you're in deep water if you believe the lie that Americans have more in their pockets in the end of the day. Reality doesnt agree with you.

    5. Universe VIII Eight
      Universe VIII Eight
      Acum lună

      @Zuurker U Thats not true , Stockholm took more than half of my paycheck , i got more money in my pocket in USA . I work in a Las Vegas (Orleans, local casino) as a dealer i have healthcare and i pay 32 a month , they actually take 16 bucks from each paycheck.. i use to pay Obamacare 265 bucks a month so thanks god thats over and i hope it doesn't come back

  78. Brett
    Brett
    Acum lună

    This guy is obviously bias on the topic but tbh his viewpoint is very sound and valid

  79. Taipan Tails
    Taipan Tails
    Acum lună

    Rich CEO defends capitalism now thats a shocker.

    1. Pete Perez
      Pete Perez
      Acum lună

      what part of his case didn’t make complete sense?

    2. Brett
      Brett
      Acum lună

      At least his defense of that was very sound

  80. Xanyonn Beats
    Xanyonn Beats
    Acum lună

    Win Win Win

  81. YoungContrarian
    YoungContrarian
    Acum lună

    Socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor.

  82. Plague
    Plague
    Acum lună

    Socialism comes in many forms. When we were tribal I believe it worked well, such as with the native americans. But this individualistic high population society we live in now makes it nearly impossible.

    1. xXMarkus WesterdahlXx
      xXMarkus WesterdahlXx
      Acum lună

      We literally have socialism in our everyday lives

  83. Cristian Gamez
    Cristian Gamez
    Acum lună

    This guy is an idiot lol. We can all be CEOs guys. Believe in yourself 🙌🏼

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Yes, we can all be CEOs, by seizing the means of production and democratizing them.

  84. MrRumpunch70
    MrRumpunch70
    Acum 2 luni

    I miss the bricks, WTF is this.

    1. MrRumpunch70
      MrRumpunch70
      Acum lună

      @Plague The old background were bricks beautiful magnificent bricks.

    2. Plague
      Plague
      Acum lună

      Bricks?

  85. Big Gig G
    Big Gig G
    Acum 2 luni

    Bull shit today's capitalism only benefits the owners and higher ups.They pay the rest of there people shit so only a few do well while the rest struggle. In most cases people are living in financial slavery. We have to pay the rent so we are forced to accept wages that even though they are lopsided we have little options. The problem is capitalism isn't what it was in the 60's when employers paid employees well and they could have a decent life. Now ur a # and its all about how much more they can make by paying people less. Rich people like capitalism but try being on the bottom side of it. Owners do the least work and keep more than all employees combined. Hmm that seems alot like slavery but its ok because they have been paying minimum wages lol that is financial slavery bra

  86. I AM MCLOVIN
    I AM MCLOVIN
    Acum 2 luni

    If people haven’t taken a look at the middle class across the board, it’s depleting before our eyes cuz we have a capitalist system that still uses corporate socialism when corporations go under. The government bails them out with no strings attached. Instead of using the money to keep the company running n pay their employees, these greedy cucks pocket it n tank the company anyway. Look at what happened with Obama in 2008-2009. Look at what happened during covid where BOTH parties made it priority to bail out corporations instead of people. Both parties take a top-down approach n leave us screwed during a pandemic. Businesses are hurting n ain’t hiring so ya can’t exactly pick ya self up by boot straps. It don’t help if you don’t have boot straps to begin with. This ceo guy is a horrible figure to understand how the system works. And people think a ceo is going to have a working mans agenda in mind? What a joke

  87. imicca
    imicca
    Acum 2 luni

    Dislikers and angry people commenting didnt watch the video

  88. imicca
    imicca
    Acum 2 luni

    People thinking socialism is better don’t understand how capitalism is beneficial

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      @imicca What exactly do you think socialism is? WHICH countries have been actually socialist, and distributed ownership of the means of production democratically? There’s a difference between an actual socialist country that distributes ownership and a tankie country that calls itself socialist for the propaganda value. Countries like the USSR called themselves socialist because they agreed that socialism was their end goal but they did not follow a socialist economic system at the time. Because they never could have. Socialism was only ever possible in the most advanced capitalist countries like the US where growth begins to exhaust itself. Tankie countries knowingly followed a system called state capitalism in order to try to develop the means of production in a way that would allow for a later socialist revolution, also known as two-stage theory (which you should Google search). They were not socialist in practice. Also Marx theorized that it doesn’t matter how many people say “no” to capitalism. He thought ideology had little to nothing to do with the trends of human development. Only that capitalism would undermine its own requirements for growth, which is clearly happening, and then frustrate the working class into agitating for change, which is also happening. Ideology doesn’t affect the rate at which that happens, which is why tankie ideology failed. The declining rate of profit is a process happening entirely within the capitalist market economy, and that is why capitalism cannot last indefinitely. You can disagree with me all you want, that won’t stop capitalism from collapsing. Maybe try listening to leftists with an open mind instead of dismissing them because some right-wing grifter told you they’re demons who want to destroy America? What would the appeal of leftism even be if socialists are all just Stalin apologists who love dictatorship?

    2. imicca
      imicca
      Acum lună

      @IAN 4000 yeah but socialism isnt the answer. Your answer to dying in fire is jumping to water and drowning. This is how stupid your "counter" argument is to "Capitalism cant last forever". Nothing can, and socialism didnt even last a century, failed. people glorifying socialism are delusional people who think every problem can be solved if we make "revolution" and say no to capitalism. Not gonna happen

    3. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Literally every leftist understands the benefits of capitalism. Capitalism was a vast improvement over feudalism. Marx straight-up says right at the beginning of the Manifesto that capitalism is the most revolutionary order of things that the world has ever known. However, it also cannot last forever, because capital accumulation and a declining rate of profit make capitalism inherently more and more unstable (which causes financial crashes like the last two debt crises) until it collapses entirely and gives way to a post-capitalist mode of production which, no matter what form it takes in practice, would be communist in nature.

    4. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 2 luni

      Capitalism does have its benefits as long as you are the one with the power and since the majority don't actually have the power and tend to be at the mercy of the few who do, then you will obviously see naysayers of capitalism. Just because people don't like capitalism doesn't mean they want socialism though because socialism would kind of force people to be more responsible. For example, there are those who definitely like the benefits that come with being in a Union but those same people also do not like to be responsible enough to participate in showing up for discussions and voting. A Socialist economy would be full of worker cooperatives, which means that workers would need to learn how to do more than just a specific job. Obviously there are worker cooperatives that are structured in a manner where people don't have to manage the business together on top of doing the labor, they can just do work like privatized businesses and vote if they choose to. But most people who are part of worker cooperatives don't tend to have them structured exactly like privatized businesses because they want more economic mobility and opportunities to gain more skills efficiently. Socialism tends to be a terrible system for lazy people and capitalism is much better suited for laziness. People who claim they want socialism don't seem to realize that the mainstream narrative of socialism isn't what socialism actually is. Obviously the mainstream narrative of socialism is supposed to turn people away from socialism because it's terrible for the rich elites but that's another part of the conversation as well. 🤷‍♂️

  89. Riccardo Mitchell
    Riccardo Mitchell
    Acum 2 luni

    This dude is so dumb. Both my parents have PhD’s...they legit don’t give a shit other people are making more money, nor does anyone in their field think that

  90. B Beemer
    B Beemer
    Acum 2 luni

    Joe makes really good points. Puts things in a way that I haven’t necessarily thought ab before.

  91. Marco Couto
    Marco Couto
    Acum 2 luni

    Funny how this guy makes a great example for the "intellectuals". He can't expose any idea without being wrong or completely superficial, jesus dude read a fucking book once in while there such as thing as being too little of an intellectual.

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Why be smart when your fortune depends on acting like a moron?

  92. Hayden Cash
    Hayden Cash
    Acum 2 luni

    What gave this guy the right to talk from the perspective of the customer or employee. The customers are not winning, products are getting crappier or more expensive by the day. The employee is not winning everyone is poor.

  93. TheReubah
    TheReubah
    Acum 2 luni

    this guy obviously doesnt know what socailism is. its like he lives in a fantasy land where Norway and its neighbouring countrys dont exsist.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 2 luni

      Those aren't socialist nations. Socialism isn't the same as welfare systems. Socialism is worker cooperatives which Norway among many other Scandinavian nations give a more fair shot at surviving than America which is THE anti-socialist entity in the entire world. The Scandinavian model is definitely a good example of what America can learn from so it's good to bring up. It's just that it bothers me when the term 'Socialism' gets thrown around irresponsibly to where the meaning/definition gets changed and becomes unrecognizable.

  94. The Duke
    The Duke
    Acum 2 luni

    Joe isn’t smart enough for this conversation. His leftist ideology gets exposed again. All the people that hate capitalism goes to whole foods, they will not be seen in a piggy wiggly!

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      As a leftist myself, the idea that Joe Rogan is a leftist is hilarious. Try to gain some perspective on outrage media that tries to convince you that anything left of Reaganism is literally communism.

    2. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum lună

      @The Duke We are assuming you even know what socialist are or what socialism is, correct? After all, conservatives, due to their low intellect, tend to mix up liberals, socialist, and tankies all the time. They never know the difference. 🤣

    3. The Duke
      The Duke
      Acum lună

      @Hunterchuck have you driven through a Whole Foods parking lot? It’s not hard to tell who the socials are

    4. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 2 luni

      I've never heard of any socialist shopping at wholefoods to be honest and i'm around socialist groups in my personal life and on the internet. Socialist boycotted Wholefoods the moment the CEO started his anti-socialist campaign a few years back.

  95. Uros Lipovec
    Uros Lipovec
    Acum 2 luni

    nice narrow minded old man who lives in utopia

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      He does live in a utopia, because he's rich. Takes a lot of suffering from low-paid employees to sustain every second of his life in that utopia, though. No wonder the rich don't want anything changed.

  96. Nate Blair
    Nate Blair
    Acum 2 luni

    How’s it a blanket term when he defined it as being good at test takimg

  97. The Old Toys
    The Old Toys
    Acum 2 luni

    “CEO explains why we’re lucky to work for his benefit”

    1. C T
      C T
      Acum 27 Zile

      literally never said that but ok socialist

  98. Jean Lepage
    Jean Lepage
    Acum 2 luni

    Jesus, usually really love the comment section. But people are acting like fool

    1. IAN 4000
      IAN 4000
      Acum lună

      Nah, they're right. Capitalism is critically flawed and rich ghouls like this guy are desperately trying to prevent people from figuring that out, because they materially benefit from your deception.

  99. Claudia Alarcon
    Claudia Alarcon
    Acum 2 luni

    I am one degree of separation from Joe Rogan! I have personally met John Mackey, he makes some great points and is pretty intellegent himself. Here are some limitations he has when it comes to understanding Capitalism. I whole heartedly agree with CONSCIOUS CAPITALISM, the problem with greed is in the Bylaws of the incorporating documents of a company. The only sole purpose of a corporation is to make profit (at the expense of everything else). Even if the owner has a higher purpose to benefit society, they WILL GET LEGALLY PUNISHED and even removed as a CEO if they dont maximize profits. That is why B CORPS are a much better solution, because it legally changes the incorporating documents and keeps corporations accountable to that higher purpose.

    1. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 2 luni

      @Claudia Alarcon If you want businesses to be accountable and transparent, the best way to go about it is restructuring them into worker cooperatives. The reason why I was making a statement about conscious dictatorships and such is because capitalism is an economy controlled by private interest groups. This is very similar to a dictatorships because these owners have complete control over the labor of the people who are doing work for them. For the same reason why the concept of conscious dictatorships sounds ridiculous, so does the concept of conscious capitalism for the same reason. Most of the economic life struggles stem from the idea of a person having control over others for self benefit, rather than collective benefit. I do not mind the conscious capitalist movement as you might suggest. I'm fine with people learning the hard way. The important part for me is that people learn one way or another. It can be from using their brain to think a little further about the problems and what solutions would work best, or jumping into an idea that sounds good at face value and finding out that it was a trash idea to begin with (learning the hard way).

    2. Claudia Alarcon
      Claudia Alarcon
      Acum 2 luni

      @Hunterchuck I dont know what B Corps or Conscious Capitalism have to do with Dictatorships or monarchy? 🤔 On the Contrary, B Corps are about the Free market and business as a source for social good and benefit to humanity, so your comment is ignorant at best. Do you know anything about B Corps? Do you known anything about the the multiple steakholder model of doing business? My dream is that all B Corps companies will one day will put all these crony capitalism, multinational monopolies out of business for good! Concious Capitalism is a movement that cannot be stopped. Its all about the free market and REAL Capitalism, not this phony crony capitasim trying to pretend that its a free market! You better educate yourself before you wreck yourself.

    3. Hunterchuck
      Hunterchuck
      Acum 2 luni

      We should do conscious dictatorships so we can have a dictatorship or conscious monarchy so we can get back to serving a monarch. We might even do well with conscious empires so we can have an emperor. That would be cool.

  100. Phily TheKid
    Phily TheKid
    Acum 2 luni

    Capitalism it just works

    1. Zuurker U
      Zuurker U
      Acum lună

      Except when taxas freezes or when a global pandemic hits. XD